[All-Or-Nothing]

I know................



Al O. just needs to run some more simulations.

[jspookss]

I bet in their haste to get the car to the track, they didn't run the dealer gas out of the tank. The dyno numbers tell the story. That ZL1 has the rabies. They say they topped it off with 93, but Camaros are notorious for pulling timing if even the smallest amount of lower octane gas.

[G8mike]

Do yourselves a favour. Pick up your latest R & T (who generally seem to get the best times out of cars). In their road test summary, the 1/4 mile indicates a 'significant difference' is .5 of a second. In general, every car I've seen out at the track performs within that range. My own experience was exactly that with both the G8 and the GTP - Best for the G8 was 13.64 and worst was 14.1. Best for the GTP was 14.78 and worst was 15.3. What it comes down to are the road/track conditions and the skill of the driver at launching the car. The more powerful they are, the trickier they are to launch and variable their times will be.

The h/p race is also very much a moving target since cars today are performing at levels completely unheard of even 5 years ago, so whoever is 'on top' at the moment will only be there for a short period of time. Which, by the way, makes this the best time ever to be an enthusiast.

[All-Or-Nothing]

G8mike;196703 Wrote:Do yourselves a favour. Pick up your latest R & T (who generally seem to get the best times out of cars). In their road test summary, the 1/4 mile indicates a 'significant difference' is .5 of a second. In general, every car I've seen out at the track performs within that range. My own experience was exactly that with both the G8 and the GTP - Best for the G8 was 13.64 and worst was 14.1. Best for the GTP was 14.78 and worst was 15.3. What it comes down to are the road/track conditions and the skill of the driver at launching the car. The more powerful they are, the trickier they are to launch and variable their times will be.

The h/p race is also very much a moving target since cars today are performing at levels completely unheard of even 5 years ago, so whoever is 'on top' at the moment will only be there for a short period of time. Which, by the way, makes this the best time ever to be an enthusiast.

But...but...but....the ZL1 has Super Duper Performance Traction Management with five settings...

and launch control.



Maybe there was "dust" on the track

[jspookss]

The Automatic doesn't have launch control dumby.

[All-Or-Nothing]

jspookss;196705 Wrote:The Automatic doesn't have launch control dumby.

It needs it...::

[jspookss]

Doubt it. I'm sure hennessey will come out with some magic "performance parts" that will "fix" these times.

[All-Or-Nothing]

jspookss;196707 Wrote:Doubt it. I'm sure hennessey will come out with some magic "performance parts" that will "fix" these times.

Being fair..........Hennessey ALWAYS has slow ass times when they do their "stock" runs. Remember how slow they ran the SS on it's first pass.

[The Voice of Doom]

All-Or-Nothing;196617 Wrote:

The Voice of Doom;196593 Wrote:So what? Road & Track admitted that their initial results were off because of the weather.

LOL.......did you even read the link.


This is the Hennessey car and the temp was 79 degrees.

Nice try tho


This POS is slower than the current GT500.......no wonder they are trying to market is so hard as a "road course" car

I read the link. All I was saying is that until I start seeing numbers from big magazines under proper testing conditions I'm not going to wet the bed (coughcoughindycarenginescough)

[jspookss]

All-Or-Nothing;196708 Wrote:

jspookss;196707 Wrote:Doubt it. I'm sure hennessey will come out with some magic "performance parts" that will "fix" these times.

Being fair..........Hennessey ALWAYS has slow ass times when they do their "stock" runs. Remember how slow they ran the SS on it's first pass.

[jspookss]

Didnt i say this was gonna happen?

Well its lingenfelter, but still.. 11.03 @ 130mph

Lingenfelter "mod" zl1 with drag radials and skinny tires running 3 more pounds of boost over stock.

Why the hell you would want this thing to be a drag strip queen is beyond me, this thing is meant to be driven!

[Chevroletguy]

jspookss;196756 Wrote:Didnt i say this was gonna happen?

Well its lingenfelter, but still.. 11.03 @ 130mph

Lingenfelter "mod" zl1 with drag radials and skinny tires running 3 more pounds of boost over stock.

Why the hell you would want this thing to be a drag strip queen is beyond me, this thing is meant to be driven!

Exactly, that is what it was engineered for, which is why they tested it at the 'Ring.

[jspookss]

[ncguy]

The Voice of Doom;196715 Wrote:

All-Or-Nothing;196617 Wrote:

The Voice of Doom;196593 Wrote:So what? Road & Track admitted that their initial results were off because of the weather.

LOL.......did you even read the link.


This is the Hennessey car and the temp was 79 degrees.

Nice try tho


This POS is slower than the current GT500.......no wonder they are trying to market is so hard as a "road course" car

I read the link. All I was saying is that until I start seeing numbers from big magazines under proper testing conditions I'm not going to wet the bed (coughcoughindycarenginescough)

How do we know its slower than the current GT500? I guess if you take the fastest times of the GT500 and compare them to the slowest times for the ZL1 then I'm sure this could be correct. True?
So lets state a few facts here:
MT got 12.35 @ 115 for the '11 GT500
C&D got 12.30 @ 119 for the ZL1, they got a 12.4 @ 117 for the '11 GT500
The video I provided earlier states the ZL1 run in the 11s when the launch control was disengaged

Its also good to know that the ZL1 is now a POS since Mr. McLips said it was

[All-Or-Nothing]

jspookss;196756 Wrote:Didnt i say this was gonna happen?

Well its lingenfelter, but still.. 11.03 @ 130mph

Lingenfelter "mod" zl1 with drag radials and skinny tires running 3 more pounds of boost over stock.

Why the hell you would want this thing to be a drag strip queen is beyond me, this thing is meant to be driven!

Sorry to tell you this but NO ONE serious about running around a road course is gonna use a 4100lb, supercharged car. This whole "road course" marketing by GM is so sad when you GMhumpers just fell right into it. Hell the car was already suffering from heatsoak on those 12 second runs down the strip. How do you think it was gonna do trying to run 50 laps with timing getting pulled till it's just a 300hp/4100lb car eating brakes and tires.

This car is a fail around the track and a fail down the strip.