[The Voice of Doom]

There once was a Fordie who spoke,
Without knowing their trucks were a joke.
"Get the one that burns gas,
'cause the diesels don't last."
Then he died of a swift Powerstroke.

[GotMopar?]

The Voice of Doom;188728 Wrote:There once was a Fordie who spoke,
Without knowing their trucks were a joke.
"Get the one that burns gas,
'cause the diesels don't last."
Then he died of a swift Powerstroke.

[LovemyFord]

So you're trying to brag up the droopy face ugly frakking dodges with rear coils....ooooooooohhhhh my.

Yep, so glad Fiat took over Ram! As for Powerstroke vs. Cummins, come up to Boom country tell my what dominates the roads. Dodge's engines are old tech and tired...they really need to come up with something new....The Hemi is not what it us to be....hell atleast try VCT. Yes you will say it didn't do much for ford....the 5.4 and 4.6 were testers....Ford got it right with the 5.0. And sorry, Dodge still has not gotten there transmissions right.

As for durability of 6.7, so for it has been great...I have only seen 5 that needed new engines...All five were narrow frame chasis cab. When they came in all had over-rev codes and were grossly overloaded.
Other then that...there is a TSB for NOx sensor that I've had to do on about 10, but that is all I've seen wrong.

As for not changing it for a while....Good, because I love this current design...they should keep it around as long as the 1997-2003 (or 2004 Heritage) model. I think six years is good run.

Side NOTE....PLEASE NISSAN, do something with the Titan.

And seriously...Dodge's Grill Headlights make it look all droopy faced and sad from the front...I know it's a poor dodge. Sorry, RAM.

[The Voice of Doom]

Sorry dood, but Rams are awesome. Thet look awesome, they drive awesome, and my contractor friend who bought one says they work awesome. And I'm a GM guy.

Fords are all over the place here in Alberta. They're mostly refrigerator white and not privately owned. Over the past decade or so the diesel ones have had a horrible mortality rate and the gas engines have been boat anchors. I'm sure you can pimp one out nicely enough and the new engines seem to be ok, but...

[LovemyFord]

Don't Care who buys them. They are work trucks and get abused. How do the Dodge's hold up under same conditions, or are they not selling. Sorry, don't count weekend wariors or light contractors for a test of a truck...Hell, I wouldn't use my truck when promoting Ford's for working...I pamper mine. Full Syn oil every 7500 miles...try to clean her every other week. and approaching 41K on a 2010 already

As for mortality...A company down here in ND with the oil fields has had a lot of problems with engines. But pushing vehicles 25K between oil changes...well we just like to say its costs them $6k for an oil change.

Boat anchors... Why, because they didn't do the best in the quarter? Fun when you could still tow more with an F-150 then the 1500. Trucks ain't race cars, and I'm more than happy with my third 5.4.

One can never argue look, because everyone has different tastes. I say they look sad, an am ill impressed with them, and I use to work at a dodge store....best thing for me...made me realize I will NEVER buy a Jeep or Dodge.

[McLovin]

Dodge Diesels are purchased.
Ford Diesels are engineered and made by Ford.

When Dodge makes a Diesel engine, or GM, lets talk.

[McLovin]

Dodge Diesels are purchased.
Ford Diesels are engineered and made by Ford.

When Dodge makes a Diesel engine, or GM, lets talk.

[McLovin]

Oh, and to you doom, when the discussion at hand is a specific truck brand being accused of doing nothing for two years, and only that particular single product.....and you blow in with a comment about how toyota dominated in the past due to similar events.......I can ONLY summize that you are talking about Toyota's comparative product -- tundra.

Did you see what I did there, cuz I sure saw what you tired to do.
And that sir is a joke, like you.

[McLovin]

Oh, and to you doom, when the discussion at hand is a specific truck brand being accused of doing nothing for two years, and only that particular single product.....and you blow in with a comment about how toyota dominated in the past due to similar events.......I can ONLY summize that you are talking about Toyota's comparative product -- tundra.

Did you see what I did there, cuz I sure saw what you tired to do.
And that sir is a joke, like you.

[McLovin]

The Voice of Doom;188781 Wrote:Sorry dood, but Rams are awesome. Thet look awesome, they drive awesome, and my contractor friend who bought one says they work awesome. And I'm a GM guy.

Fords are all over the place here in Alberta. They're mostly refrigerator white and not privately owned. Over the past decade or so the diesel ones have had a horrible mortality rate and the gas engines have been boat anchors. I'm sure you can pimp one out nicely enough and the new engines seem to be ok, but...

What a complete liar.
What a complete jerk:2thumbsup:

[Ix3understeer]

The Voice of Doom;188728 Wrote:There once was a Fordie who spoke,
Without knowing their trucks were a joke.
"Get the one that burns gas,
'cause the diesels don't last."
Then he died of a swift Powerstroke.

hahahaaa....niiiiiice

[Chevroletguy]

The Voice of Doom;188728 Wrote:There once was a Fordie who spoke,
Without knowing their trucks were a joke.
"Get the one that burns gas,
'cause the diesels don't last."
Then he died of a swift Powerstroke.

POST THE YEAR.....AGAIN!!

[The Voice of Doom]

McLovin;188790 Wrote:Oh, and to you doom, when the discussion at hand is a specific truck brand being accused of doing nothing for two years, and only that particular single product.....and you blow in with a comment about how toyota dominated in the past due to similar events.......I can ONLY summize that you are talking about Toyota's comparative product -- tundra.

Did you see what I did there, cuz I sure saw what you tired to do.
And that sir is a joke, like you.

Here's the best point about this duplicate post: Wings responded to my post dealing specifically with the Tundra BEFORE he tried ripping my FIRST post saying that a conservative product mindset set the stage for Toyota's rise in the first place. Basically, his angry rant shows that he forgot that he answered me already. Something must have set him off...

[The Voice of Doom]

Don't Care who buys them. They are work trucks and get abused.

-Sales are sales, true. But given the profit margins on, say, a Denali or Laramie Limited, I don't think that Ford flooding the workplace with farm trucks exactly pads their bottom line.

How do the Dodge's hold up under same conditions, or are they not selling. Sorry, don't count weekend wariors or light contractors for a test of a truck...Hell, I wouldn't use my truck when promoting Ford's for working...I pamper mine. Full Syn oil every 7500 miles...try to clean her every other week. and approaching 41K on a 2010 already

-Nice assumption on my contractor buddy the "weekend warrior." A brutally INCORRECT one, but whatever.

As for mortality...A company down here in ND with the oil fields has had a lot of problems with engines. But pushing vehicles 25K between oil changes...well we just like to say its costs them $6k for an oil change.

-Don't know what you guys down there do as far as oil changes, don't care. The mortality rate I was referring to was with diesels. Specfically, Ford diesels were losing their cool. A recurring theme, it appears.

Boat anchors... Why, because they didn't do the best in the quarter? Fun when you could still tow more with an F-150 then the 1500. Trucks ain't race cars, and I'm more than happy with my third 5.4.

-Spoken like a guy who hasn't been stuck behind a loaded half-ton Ford blocking traffic on an uphill grade. Dismal power+no improvement in economy=5.4 fail.

One can never argue look, because everyone has different tastes. I say they look sad, an am ill impressed with them, and I use to work at a dodge store....best thing for me...made me realize I will NEVER buy a Jeep or Dodge.

-Fair enough. Then shut your piehole about your personal beefs. My first post about the Ram was just to say that it's innovations were keeping the full-size truck market from stagnating. That's all. You're a newbie, so I'll give you some advice: McLovin isn't a good example to follow if you're a Ford fan.

[atvman]

Anyways, the F150 and Ram 1500 are the newest trucks in the segment. What really should asked is when some of the more stale trucks are going to get updated. The Titan has been around since 2004 while the Tundra and GM twins have been the same since 2007. Ford is beating everybody's ass in sales and Ram has seen big market share gains at the expense of the lesser trucks, it's obviously not the two of them that need to be fixed right now.