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2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-12-2012 09:17 AM
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In terms of driving dynamics, Lincoln hits the bulls-eye in terms of comfort. Both the MKS and MKT provide quiet, supple rides, with very little wind, road, or engine noise making their way into the cabin.
I take a 2012 and 2013 MKS back-to-back on an autocross course to compare handling and braking, and there is a very noticeable difference between the two models. The 2013 MKS still exhibits noticeable body roll, and acceleration leaves something to be desired in a track-like setting, but it’s still far ahead of its predecessor.
Lincoln representatives talk up the improved feel and effectiveness of the brakes on the 2013 MKS and sure enough, they’re fantastic - not too grabby or soft, and they do hold on tight when you press the brake pedal to the floor.
It’s very encouraging to see that the MKS and MKT aren’t even fully redesigned vehicles, yet they show a big leap over their predecessors, especially the MKS. That bodes well for new models coming down the line for Lincoln.
As it stands, these vehicles certainly do signal a warning on four wheels to competitors that Lincoln is ready to play the luxury game to win
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-12-2012 09:24 AM
This really does bode well for the MKZ, which will use all the MKS' technology that improves ride and handling and even performance, but on an all new brilliant chassis to take full advantage of it.
And wait until you all see/hear about the performance version of the MKZ.
I will be driving the new MKS and MKT next week.
Can't wait.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - All-Or-Nothing - 07-12-2012 09:38 AM
MKZ performance model is really gonna be a shocker. It will be my next car that replaces my 550i.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-12-2012 09:49 AM
Sure is. Can't wait to see images.
I suspect it will be differentiated quite a bit from the current sleeper MKS with EcoBoost, which really has no body changes from base 3.7L.
But since the power/weight of the MKZ will be much more, they need to excite things a bit. The usual stuff, lowered, wheels/tires, mild aero. Nothing too crazy, as Lincoln should focus on classy and understated. But certainly in it's driving dynamics.
And again, I can't say enough, how brilliantly sexy the next MKX is. I am pretty sure current one is already class leading, but next one, with all new powertrains, should awesome.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - All-Or-Nothing - 07-12-2012 10:00 AM
MKZ Performance model will be AWD also.....
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - lengnert - 07-12-2012 10:05 AM
I know this may not be the prevailing opinion here and also may be taken with a grain of salt based on my blatantly clear bias, but if the new MKZ is even just slightly better than the current version then the only reason NOT to buy the car over the competition (for any car priced within 10-15 grand of it) is that you don't care for the styling (which would therefore make you the biggest jackass to begin with) or you just want ultimate power and handling.
The current MKZ is that good, as it is.
It does not matter who may or may not believe it, it is what it is.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - TaurusSHO - 07-21-2012 10:31 PM
Reading first test reviews, the MKS seems to have really improved. I wish some magazine would compare it against some of it competitors. I still prefer the 2012 model though.
When can we expect this MKZ performance model to debut at an autoshow?
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - zguy - 07-22-2012 07:28 AM
Why all wheel drive only, certainly sounds like more parts that can fail, wasting gas and more weight with no benefit for most of the us
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - ncguy - 07-22-2012 07:32 AM
Quote:When can we expect this MKZ performance model to debut at an autoshow?
If history repeats itself (like it does soooo many times with Lincoln) this will be equivalent to the Elantra performance model which is called the Elantra GT
That GT emblem cut 2 seconds off the 0-60 time and 3 seconds off the VIR lap time...
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - ncguy - 07-22-2012 07:35 AM
zguy;220220 Wrote:Why all wheel drive only, certainly sounds like more parts that can fail, wasting gas and more weight with no benefit for most of the us
Because the Ford FWD underpinning can't handle the power without making it AWD?
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-22-2012 08:25 AM
AWD is superior to RWD.
Why is this so hard to understand.
AWD helps safety and performance, on dry, wet and snow covered roads.
It can be driven with confidence, all year long, throughout the country, not just in southern climates.
The system is simple and maintenance free.
The rest is excuses, for a traction limited RWD.
And the smaller and lighter the car with RWD, the worst things get.
This class needs AWD.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-22-2012 08:39 AM
ncguy;220221 Wrote:Quote:When can we expect this MKZ performance model to debut at an autoshow?
If history repeats itself (like it does soooo many times with Lincoln) this will be equivalent to the Elantra performance model which is called the Elantra GT
That GT emblem cut 2 seconds off the 0-60 time and 3 seconds off the VIR lap time...
Oh yee of so little faith, yet so much ignorance.
Lincoln will soon have plenty of powertrains that will be unique, powerful and fuel efficient. Combined with traction, steering and suspension systems that can all be controlled and tuned specific to each application, I would say Lincoln has quite the automotive sandbox to play in.
So you go right ahead and pretend Lincoln has learned nothing.
But it is you who have done that much.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - Dequindre - 07-22-2012 11:34 AM
Yeah, tell us everything that Lincoln plans to do!
Just kidding, not everything, but some hints.
Between the members at MT and CF, we know a lot about what is happening at Lincoln.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - McLovin - 07-22-2012 12:53 PM
Ford has been very hush about Lincoln.
There are few out there that know the whole story. But based on the excitement level of corporate brass, which is even more than Ford brand, as they resurrected it.
And based on the success of Ford brand (biggest, best quality, most fuel efficient) I would not worry about Lincoln.
RE: 2013 Lincoln MKS and MKT - Dequindre - 07-22-2012 03:55 PM
McLovin;220247 Wrote:Ford has been very hush about Lincoln.
There are few out there that know the whole story. But based on the excitement level of corporate brass, which is even more than Ford brand, as they resurrected it.
And based on the success of Ford brand (biggest, best quality, most fuel efficient) I would not worry about Lincoln.
I just want to know if they're doing it "right". The members at MT and all about RWD, so Lincoln needs some RWD to get some respect for the enthusiast market. Based on the MKZ, we know that their new design language isn't boring, which is great! Their product line is something that i'm curious about too. An MT member reports that the MKC in-fact exists. The Explorer-based Aviator and what the next MKS will be like are both unknowns.