iDream Theater;185853 Wrote:+1000000000000

On the tru concept. Way way sexier than the other, ugly concept. Would make an amazing cruze coupe.

Thank U

First thing I thought when I saw this car... (not the other one that looks like a mish-mash of Camaro and WRX, and is only loved by certain individuals because it has RWD architecture...) was WOW!!! Chevy is bringing us a Cruze Coupe!!! Yes.. the coupe for the Sedan that out of no where, after many said it would fail, after most said the cross town rival would clobber it.. and ugly ass Korean would beat it... took the #2 spot from Honda last year as America's most loved non-punk Ass Toyota compact.

It's a no-brainer. It looks exotic, yet very Cruze-ish at the same time. It looks almost G6 Coupish if U look at it from certain angles. It looks almost Lamborghini from others. It looks most importantly... damn close to production ready. 232K units of that sedan went out the door. Sedan only.. no hatch, no coupe.. no performance version... Just a sedan.

I don't kno about U.. but Baltimore/D.C. Metro.. the Cobalt Coupe seemed like the bigger seller when it was on sale. The absence of a Cruze coupe seems negligent, if not unbelievable at best. I could easily see another 40-50K Coupe sales to tack on to that 232K units sold last year. Add a Hatch... and the Cruze could certainly be a 300K+ unit car. The Tru-140 Concept, I believe, is that Coupe.. or at least a preview of what the coupe would look like. Not simply a Sedan with two doors lopped off, but an actual sport coupe sharing the architecture and name but sporty in a way that would electrify sales in the way the CTS Coupe did to the CTS sedan sales...

Hmmmm... Interesting. This Coupe, in relation to the Cruze sedan, actually reminds me of the difference between the CTS and the CTS coupe

Base Model: 1.4L Turbo 138hp/148ft. lbs
RS Model: 2.5L 190HP/180lb-ft Better brakes, Lowered 1/2inch and tinted headlights/taillights. Dual exhaust.
SS Model: 2.0L Turbo 255HP/275lbs Brembos, Lowered 1/2inch. Tinted Headlights/Tail. Dual Exhaust.

Optional on SS only: Factory sponsored, under warranty "R-Spec" treatment "SSR" Boost on the engine to 300HP/340lbs. ($995)

RougeRiver;185855 Wrote:The point is that hybrids and EVs are halo cars that enable the development of fuel saving technologies that can help the corporate fuel economy average by being applied to the rest of the products at a future time.

For years, manufacturers have funded halo performance cars that lost money but enhanced the image of the company and brought people in the showrooms to be steered to something they could afford. Performance cars also develop new technolgies that bleed down into the rest of the products.

For example, Toyota will probably utilize lessons learned from the money losing LFA.

atvman;185865 Wrote:A Cruze eAssist will come with time, though 50mpg is a bit optimistic. 30/43mpg is my guess unless they wait half a generation and throw DI in the 1.4L at the same time. Remember, the current 43mpg rating is the manual trans car and I doubt GM is going to build a manual eAssist any time soon.

atvman;185877 Wrote:They changed the EPA rating for 2012, didn't catch that. Anyways, eAssist may or may not impact the Cruze as much as it did the Lacrosse and Regal. The Cruze Eco is already a more fuel efficiency optimized package than the Regal and Lacrosse were, leaving less room for improvement. It would likely be more accurate to use the normal Cruze as the base when projecting the gains eAssist will make.

Cmicasa the GreatXvX;185857 Wrote:

iDream Theater;185853 Wrote:+1000000000000

On the tru concept. Way way sexier than the other, ugly concept. Would make an amazing cruze coupe.

[b]Thank U

First thing I thought when I saw this car... (not the other one that looks like a mish-mash of Camaro and WRX, and is only loved by certain individuals because it has RWD architecture...) was WOW!!! Chevy is bringing us a Cruze Coupe!!! Yes.. the coupe for the Sedan that out of no where, after many said it would fail, after most said the cross town rival would clobber it.. and ugly ass Korean would beat it... took the #2 spot from Honda last year as America's most loved non-punk Ass Toyota compact.

It's a no-brainer. It looks exotic, yet very Cruze-ish at the same time. It looks almost G6 Coupish if U look at it from certain angles. It looks almost Lamborghini from others. It looks most importantly... damn close to production ready. 232K units of that sedan went out the door. Sedan only.. no hatch, no coupe.. no performance version... Just a sedan.

McLovin;185884 Wrote:Only 39mpg on the Cruze huh.

If you want better, buy Focus. Ford does not force you to shift your own gears to save a bit more fuel.

And soon, a small GTDI motor will allow ~50mpg in a Focus, also without having to row your own gearbox.
This is not the 70's anymore. There is little fun that accompanies an econobox that is geared for fuel efficiency, if you have to shift your own gears. Too much work. Save that for performance vehicles.
Especially since more performance is found in the slick shifting auto.

The Voice of Doom;186064 Wrote:

Cmicasa the GreatXvX;185857 Wrote:

iDream Theater;185853 Wrote:+1000000000000

On the tru concept. Way way sexier than the other, ugly concept. Would make an amazing cruze coupe.

[b]Thank U

First thing I thought when I saw this car... (not the other one that looks like a mish-mash of Camaro and WRX, and is only loved by certain individuals because it has RWD architecture...) was WOW!!! Chevy is bringing us a Cruze Coupe!!! Yes.. the coupe for the Sedan that out of no where, after many said it would fail, after most said the cross town rival would clobber it.. and ugly ass Korean would beat it... took the #2 spot from Honda last year as America's most loved non-punk Ass Toyota compact.

It's a no-brainer. It looks exotic, yet very Cruze-ish at the same time. It looks almost G6 Coupish if U look at it from certain angles. It looks almost Lamborghini from others. It looks most importantly... damn close to production ready. 232K units of that sedan went out the door. Sedan only.. no hatch, no coupe.. no performance version... Just a sedan.

Man, you can't praise Chevy for sticking to Cruze sedans only and then hype a FWD coupe that looks like a recycled G6 two-door. "Certain individuals" like the 130 because it's RWD. I'm one of them. More importantly, so are certain individuals within GM who recognize an opportunity when they see it. Does it have to be as blocky in production as the concept? Naaah. But it MUST be RWD, and I strongly suspect it will be.

The Voice of Doom;186064 Wrote:Man, you can't praise Chevy for sticking to Cruze sedans only and then hype a FWD coupe that looks like a recycled G6 two-door. "Certain individuals" like the 130 because it's RWD. I'm one of them. More importantly, so are certain individuals within GM who recognize an opportunity when they see it. Does it have to be as blocky in production as the concept? Naaah. But it MUST be RWD, and I strongly suspect it will be.

Where am I praising Chevy for sticking to Sedans only??? Anyone can tell U that I've been the exact opposite since the Cruze went on sale. What I did do was say that with a SEDAN ONLY.. Chevy was able to move 232K units last year. I went on to say that the Cruze would sell 100K more if it had a hatch and a Coupe.

I am hyping the Tru 140concept because it would sell to people who actually buy fuckin cars.. and not the so-called enthusiasts who DID NOT EVEN BUY the Pontiac G8 in numbers enuff to MAKE GM keep it here as a consumer Chevy.

Now.. if the Tru140 came out as a RWD coupe... looking mostly like it does I would have no issue. frak I care? I do, on the other hand, have issue with the 130.. because it's fuckin UGLY.

McLovin;185884 Wrote:Only 39mpg on the Cruze huh.

If you want better, buy Focus. Ford does not force you to shift your own gears to save a bit more fuel.